When FADPOV had the chance to chat
with actor Ryan Robbins a little while ago, we were
more than thrilled to spend a slightly overcast
afternoon in
North Vancouver
with this iconic star. Two hours later and Ryan's
charm and wit has completely won us over as he
regales us with fun stories from various sets, and
what it's been like to bring characters to life in
favourite shows like Battlestar Galactica,
Stargate: Atlantis, The Guard,
Sanctuary, and so many others.
It certainly also doesn't hurt that
Ryan's animated tales are shared over luscious
organic coffee as we get sneaky peeks at the tattoo
of his daughter's name over his shoulders, all the
while wondering how we should raise the fact that we
think he looks the spitting image of an adorable
Viggo Mortensen…
As we got to spend so much time with
Ryan, we've decided to break this interview into two
parts so you don't miss out on anything. We
certainly hope you enjoy this little insight into
Ryan's life as much as we enjoyed talking with him!!
FADPOV: So Ryan, have you
always lived here in
Vancouver?
Ryan: I've lived
in
L.A., I've lived in
New York,
all over the world at times.
FADPOV: You lived in
L.A. as well as
New York?
Were you acting there?
Ryan: LA was acting.
New York
was a performance related. I spent time as a
musician there. I don't know if you've ever seen
this group "Stomp"? It's very percussive. They were
over here and some of them had seen my band ["Hellenkeller"].
They really liked what we were doing.
One of things we were doing involved
me standing on an oil drum (I was wearing combat
boots), with two drummers. Anyway, these guys asked
me to come to
New York
to try out for "Stomp". I didn't end up doing that
gig but I stayed in
New York
for a while. I lived in
Brooklyn back
before it was cool to be there…
Brooklyn is now
where all the cool people live. I love it there
though. It was great, I used to walk from my
apartment over the
Brooklyn
Bridge.
FADPOV: Sounds like you had an amazing time
there…
Ryan: Oh, I did. Brooklyn is cool
because
Brooklyn has every
sort of demographic, including the Irish.
FADPOV: Do you come from an Irish family
background?
Ryan: It's totally mixed but, yes,
there's Irish in there… and Scottish.
FADPOV: It seems to me like every person you
come across has an Irish background in some form or
another.
Ryan: The thing about being Irish is
that they're very proud about it. I know I've got
Scottish blood in there and some Norwegian… there's
a bunch of stuff… but I grew up Irish. We all have
Irish names… Ryan, Sean, Kelly, Jerry… it's all very
Irish.
FADPOV: At least you don't have the Irish
names that are spelt completely different to their
pronunciation!
Ryan: Weeeeell, my daughter's name is
Meelah, which is actually a Russian name, but we
spelt it to look like an Irish name… M-e-e-l-a-h.
[Note: Ryan shows us where he has had Meelah's name
tattooed on his back near the shoulders… it's
adorable!!!]
We thought it would be great because
no one would mispronounce it. But we didn't really
realize that people don't read your name so much as
you tell it to them and then they write it
down, so I'm sure she's going to have more problems
than we anticipated.
But if we'd stayed truly Irish with
the spelling there'd have been a ‘g' in there or
something. [*laughs*]
FADPOV: So did you grow up in
Canada
then?
Ryan: I was born in
Victoria,
here in BC.
FADPOV: We spoke with Dan Payne recently,
and he was in the movie Smile Of April with you,
wasn't he? Being based here in
Vancouver,
do you find you come across all the same people when
you arrive on movie and tv sets?
Ryan: No, not really, but depending
on the community you're in. The girls who made
Smile Of April, Sabrina and Jessica, they're
from
France,
and I met them on an unrelated movie called
Taming Tammy that they were working on. They
wanted to go to film school, but it was expensive so
they just came here and started working in film to
get the experience they needed. They're big sci fi
fans, by the way. And they're so ambitious and
tenacious and they're very, very talented people.
Anyway, I met them on Taming
Tammy and it turns out that they knew who I was
and they're big Stargate fans. They started
talking and they said to somebody I knew on the
show, "Oh we're doing this short film and we'd
really like Ryan to be in it, but we don't want to
ask him because he won't do it." So somebody asked
me on their behalf and when I read the script I was
happy to do it.
And so we did this short film and
from there we formed a relationship. They'd gotten
to know a lot of us from being fans of the shows
we've been on and meeting people at events. And once
they realized is all you have to do is ask, they
figured out we're not mean people. We're going to
look at it and if we can do it, if we like it, we'll
do it. If we can't, then it's no big deal, but it's
worth asking, right?
FADPOV: Tori Higginson was also in Smile Of
April, wasn't she?
Ryan: I love Tori! I've worked with
her a lot. And the girls [Sabrina and Jessica] got
to know Dan Payne through… something to do with
Sanctuary maybe? I can't remember how he fit
into the equation, and I know he nearly couldn't do
it because of something else he was filming.
Then they had somebody else in the
lead role and that fell through at the last minute.
I had just been talking with my friend Ann Marie
DeLuise [Peter DeLuise's wife]… we were talking
about doing Indy films. She works a lot and is a
successful actress but she wanted to do some of
those smaller films so asked me to tell her if I
heard of anything coming up. Literally, within a
week, I get this call asking if I had any ideas for
who could be the lead in Smile Of April. So
of course I got them in touch with Ann Marie. She
ended up doing the job and she's really brilliant in
it. I think Peter [DeLuise] had a little part in the
film too…
I'm curious to see the film when it
comes out! It's a series of stories so I just had my
little bit and I haven't seen any of the rest of it.
FADPOV: Your filmography covers just about
every single sci fi show that's been filmed in
Vancouver…
do you seek out sci fi at all? Or is it that a lot
of science fiction is filmed in
Canada
and you just get the calls for these shows?
Ryan: I never used to get the sci fi
calls at all! I mean, other than Beyond Belief
and an episode of The Twilight Zone… and
Outer Limits kind of early on, smaller
parts… but no one ever auditioned me for sci fi
stuff. I don't think I even auditioned for
Stargate SG-1.
FADPOV: You weren't called in for SG-1 at
all?
Ryan: I might have auditioned for it
somewhere along the line, but I don't recall ever
doing so. But what ended up happening, was when they
were casting the Atlantis pilot and I
auditioned for the character that later became
McKay.
Then they brought in David [Hewlett]
and made the character his character from SG-1,
which I think was really cool because he's just the
most fantastic guy. I have lots of respect for
David.
So the season went by then I got his
call saying there's this role… a scientist for a
couple episodes and did I want to do it? Of course I
was happy to. I figured it was just going to be a
small part and I was going to die. Then Martin Wood,
who was directing, said "I don't think I'm going to
kill ya. I'll kill somebody else, I like you."
So he didn't kill me and then not
long after that they had written this storyline for
Robert Davi, the Koyla character, to come back in
and try to take over the Genii. Well Robert was
making his own film so he wasn't available and they
rewrote it for my character instead.
And then what happened was we got in
there and it was written a certain way. The role was
written for Koyla, so when I got the script I very
tentatively spoke up and voiced my opinion that I
couldn't really justify this scientist guy suddenly
becoming a vicious, ruthless killer…
So we talked a lot and what
eventually happened was Ladon became more
conflicted. And that made him more interesting, so
they wrote more stuff and Ladon got to stick around
for a while longer. After that I don't know what
happened to him. [*laughs*]
And you know, it was cool getting to
bring this character to life. I mean, I got to work
with Colm Meaney!
FADPOV: Oh for sure! What was it like
working with him?
Ryan: He's just great. You know, I'm
a fan of his outside of the sci fi world from films
like Layer Cake and The Snapper.
He's just a brilliant Irish actor. We sat down next
to each other and I just asked him a bunch of
questions… he told me story after story after story,
and all these great Star Trek stories… all
these reasons for the choices he makes. It was
great.
There's a scene before I end up
blowing him up in Atlantis… we just came up
with this thing on the spot about his ignorance and
my frustrations with him being so pig headed and
ignorant. It became this little thing with the radio
where he kept trying to talk into it and no one's
responding, then he looked at me and handed it to me
and I turn it on to make it work. We just did that
ourselves and I'm sure if it was anybody else I
don't know if we would have gotten away with it. But
because it was Colm Meany, it was super funny and we
got to play around with it.
It was pretty hard to keep a straight
face, though. I mean, we were playing these
characters that, at that time, weren't ever really
referenced by name, so no one was really sure about
them… if they were the Genii or the
Genii
[FADPOV Note: *Work with me here
people… Ryan is talking about where the emphasis
falls on the word*]
And actually, I think the jury is
still out on it. Sometimes you can be watching an
episode where it's the Genii and at
other times it's the Genii.
FADPOV: A bit like the ‘Goa'uld' and the ‘Gooled'.
Ryan: Yup. I just like to explain it
by saying that people from different parts of the
Omniverse have different accents from others.
[*laughs*]
FADPOV: What pronunciation are you plugging
for personally?
Ryan: I like Genii
but only because it sounds like Jedi. [*FADPOV
chuckles and loves it that Ryan secretly wants to be
a Jedi*]
Colm and I were running lines and
he's asking me, "So, what are you? Ladon? Laydin?
What the hell's your name?" And I'm like, "I don't
actually know!" No one had ever actually said my
name.
He keep on at me… "What is it then?
Ladon Radim? Or you Laydin Radeem? What are you?"
And I said, "Yeah, I don't know. I think I'm going
to be Laydon Radeem. I think it's a little bit more
ethnic. It's a little more exotic."
I don't know what everybody else
calls him, but that's what I call him. And I figure
his middle name is Rex. Yeah, his dad was a big
Genii soap opera star…
FADPOV: Out of all the roles you've played,
what have been some of your favorites?
Ryan: Oh boy, I'd have to say I
haven't played it yet. And I think I'll know it when
I do get to play it. That sounds a little bit
ungrateful I think, but I haven't disliked
any of the roles I've played. I really try really
hard to bring something new, something different to
every character.
My whole plan all along was to be a
character actor. Somebody told me once that I wasn't
good looking enough to be a leading man but not ugly
enough to be a character actor and I thought, well I
could ugly myself up. I'll do that!
But then I realized longevity is
what's important for me. It's true that I don't have
that all-American look, but then I don't want that
job. I'm not as challenged when I'm just bringing
myself into a character than when I'm trying to
create something completely new to bring the
audience in. I've always wanted something as far
away from myself as possible.
There were definitely things about
Ladon I liked a lot. But being a secondary character
like that, there were a lot of things in my mind
about who he was that you never got to see in show.
I liked Charlie Connor in
Battlestar Galactica a lot too. That was the
same thing… the idea of him, had the show had gone
further, would have been very interesting to
explore. And it was something they wanted to explore
as well… they really loved the character and the way
they went with it, especially when they decided to
wrap up the series.
I'm also playing a character right
now on the series called The Guard, named
Wendell. I like that guy too. He's a series regular
on the show.
You know, I think my some of my
favorite characters have been in Indy films and
short films that not nearly enough people have seen.
There was a character called Harold in this film
When Jesse Was Born and another character in a
brilliant short film called The Visitor…
but, you know, they're festival films and not a lot
of people get to see them. I won an award for a show
called Man Feel Pain and that guy was
great, I love that guy, I love that character.
FADPOV: Do you think that you'll get to come
back as Henry Foss now that Sanctuary has been
picked up for tv?
Ryan: I hope so! Now, there's
a fun character. I had a meeting with Martin [Wood],
Amanda [Tapping] and Damian [Kindler] a couple of
months ago, talking about Sanctuary. I know
its going and will be happening, but I don't know
when. I know what the ultimate plan for the
character is, though, and it's awesome! Who knows
what will happen by the time we get to developing,
but right now I love what's on paper.
It's stuff that Damian and I had
talked about last year after we shot the webisodes.
We talked about the future of the show and the
future of the character and threw around some ideas
around. He hit me with a couple of ideas and I was
like, "That's awesome!" So fingers crossed it works
out and I can do it… that the scheduling doesn't
clash with The Guard.
I actually got that job through
Martin Wood you know. He said to Damian, "You know
who you need for this role… Ryan Robbins." And
Damian was like, "Ladon? Ah, no. He's got
to be quirky and funny and sarcastic." But Martin
was like, "Trust me, Ryan Robbins is really good."
The way Damian tells the story, he says Martin told
him, "Trust me, Ryan Robbins is really weird, a
total weirdo… he's perfect." Typical Martin Wood.
[*laughs*]
FADPOV: We're big fans of Sanctuary, so we
can't wait to see what happens with it.
Ryan: Me too, and Damian Kindler is
really active in the sci fi community and really
appreciative of the fans. He goes to everything, he
hangs out with everybody. He's really good at
talking to people about it. He's really great, he
took a risk, he took a big risk doing Sanctuary
and he is very aware of why it's paying off, who's
responsible and who watches it. He's so loyal to his
fans. He really is.
FADPOV: It's so great to hear it all coming
together.
Ryan: Actually I just had a meeting
with the creator of The Guard last night
and I happened to bump into John Smith, the producer
for Stargate and Sanctuary and
Peter DeLuise as well - I know Peter quite well -
and we start talking a little bit, but you know
what? I can't seem to get any information. From what
I know, the hope is to see Henry Foss in all 13
episodes of Sanctuary.
The ideas for the direction of the
show are really cool, though. And the fact that it
is going to television should not deter people from
their allegiance to the web presence. They have a
lot plans – nothing that I can talk about
unfortunately - that are going to continue to break
ground and continue to press forward and wow people.
Sanctuary came out with a
lot of success online and now major, major
Hollywood studios
are creating entirely separate web divisions. I
think a lot of people who had heard about this
Sanctuary thing thought they'd just let them be
the guinea pig and see what happened. And then of
course came the writer's strike and everyone was
suddenly talking about the Internet. It's become
very, very real. And people can say Sanctuary
was a coincidence, but I was there. I saw the
struggles and I know what we had to deal with, with
money and unions and how things were going to work.
You know, they offered me the job and
there wasn't a lot of money in it but it was so cool
and I thought this is going to be huge or it's not
going to work, but either way it's ground breaking
and I want to be a part of it. And I like Henry
[*smiles*]
FADPOV: Did you work extensively on a green
screen for Sanctuary?
Ryan: Everything I did was inside the
studio and all green screened. Everything I touch,
like this table in front of me… that's real. If I'm
interacting with it, it's real. But things like the
room, the walls, the ceiling, the floors… that's all
CGI. And they'll shoot it so you can come and look
at a monitor that's linked directly to the CG world
so you can see a rough rendering of what the room
will look like and what I'm walking around.
FADPOV: And when you're with monsters and
CGI characters, are you acting against a real
person? Or is it added in later?
Ryan: Yup, James Bamford – Bam Bam -
plays Steve [the creature Henry stars with]. Bam
Bam, of course, being the stunt coordinator
extraordinaire for Stargate. Everybody
knows Bam Bam. He's taller than me, but Steve is
supposed to be a lot bigger still, so I have to
remember to look slightly above Bam Bam's head… but
I've known him for so long and we goof around a lot.
He'll start making jokes when I'm trying not to look
at him in the eye.
But I really liked the whole
Steve/Henry dynamic… and I guess so did everyone
else, so I hope to see a lot more of that in the
future.
TO BE CONTINUED…
FADPOV:
What's the craziest costume you've ever had to wear
on the set?
Ryan: Wow. Probably not the craziest but the most
intense and least comfortable costume was when we
shot the first episode of the mini series for
Battlestar Galactica. I played the old man and it
took six hours in prosthetics to age me. To have the
walk and the suit… those suits are really tight!
Ladon's costume in Atlantis. I mean, god bless
the costume department, but it's one of the most
uncomfortable costumes ever.
Actually, I find myself wearing very little quite
a lot of the time. I shot this mini series called
Taken. And there's a shot where there's a bunch of
us sitting naked in the field. That's a strange
costume because it's actually this nude-colored
cloth. You're not naked, but you might as well be.
Then I did a movie with Judy Davis called A
Little Thing Called Murder and I was naked in that.
They wanted to put one of those little loin cloth
things on me and I was just like, "Ah, forget it.
Don't even worry about that thing, it covers nothing
anyway."
It was the middle of October in the pouring rain
and I'm running through a golf course completely
naked. So I think the craziest costumes are the lack
of costumes. I've dressed up in some weird outfits
but nothing like, say what Dan Payne has to wear.
Damian Kindler calls him "Dan ‘what monster will I
be this week?' Payne. [*laughs*] I don't get to be
characters like the Wraith unfortunately.
FADPOV: Oh, they're really creepy to see in
real life, aren't they?
Ryan: I was shooting Atlantis… the episode where
the Wraith, played by Chris Heyerdahl, is sucking
the life out of Sheppard… and I'm in the lunch line
and I get this hand on my shoulder and this deep
voice in my ear asking, "How you doing?"
I'm like, "Who the hell are you??" And the makeup
is so good, when you see them in person, they look
just like you see them on screen. Right up close the
details are amazing. Like freckles… the Wraith have
freckles! You've seen them, am I wrong?
FADPOV:
You're not wrong! So what are some of the more
unusual things you've had to do while filming?
Ryan: Coming from a circus background, I tend to be
given the opportunity to do more stunts than perhaps
other actors. When I first moved here, I went to
stunt school and started to learn the processes, so
I know a lot of the stunt guys here. There's an
understanding that I'll be able to do certain
things, so I often get to give them a go.
When I was filming Walking Tall, I was supposed
to do a fight scene where I ran around the corner
and hit The Rock with a stick. But when we went to
the location, the Director was like, "You know what
would be cool? If we got him to jump off that 15
foot balcony onto The Rock and have him thrown
through the table there… that would be fun." They
asked me if I wanted to do it and I was like, "Hell
yeah!"
Dwain Johnson is just the most fantastic guy, by
the way.
FADPOV: Oh… I looooooove him!
Ryan: He found out when we were filming that I
was going to have a baby and we had this great chat
about it. Then when I saw him at the film premiere…
he was surrounded by people but he called me over,
grabbed me and said, "Did you have your baby?" I
told him we had a girl and he called over his wife,
told her, and congratulated me… he was so awesome
about it all.
Anyway, when we were going to do the stunt in
Walking Tall, he called me over and said, "Listen,
there's something so cool and fun about crashing
through a table… you're going to love it, trust me."
So I did a bunch of versions with Dwain, then a
bunch with his stunt double, who is actually his
cousin. Those guys were so full of life and so
great. I had such fun with them.
A couple of times I'd be on a descender cable to
do these takes, where I hover about a foot above the
camera, just hanging… and Dwain would come over and
prop me on his shoulder. I'd be balanced there like
a muppet! And he'd just stand there chatting to me
while I was perched there on his shoulder.
[*laughs*]
I had to put on weight for that film because I
wasn't very big compared to most of the other guys,
and it had to be at least a bit believable when I
knock out The Rock. [*laughs*] So I was trying to
bulk up during filming, but they kept bringing
donuts on set. I'm like, "No, no, no… I can't have
them. I'm trying to get in shape". And then there
goes The Rock, with four donuts in his hand… and
he's cutting weight. He dropped 25 pounds for the
movie! I'm like, "Are you kidding me??" And he's
responding with, "Man, you have to treat yourself or
you won't have a good time." [*laughs*]
FADPOV: I read an interview with Dwain Johnson
one time, and it said Krispy Kreme donuts are his
complete weakness…
Ryan: That's entirely true. They were sending
people across the border to the States to pick up
boxes and boxes and boxes of Krispy Kremes and
bringing them back. I think Dwain actually designs
his diet around allowing for Krispy Kreme donuts. He
must, right? I mean, how do you eat a box of those
things and drop 25 pounds?? It's the Krispy Kreme
diet, I'm convinced.
But… they're so gooood, aren't they? [*laughs*]
You know, I personally prefer Tim Horton's donuts
though.
FADPOV:
Ooooh! Controversial!
Ryan: Well, I'm a Canadian kid. Yup… write that
down. Tim Hortons over Krispy Kreme any day. And add
a "Booyah!" [*laughs*]
FADPOV: Finally, from all the actors you've
over the years, who has kind of stood out as being
the most genuine?
Ryan: Edward James Olmos is a shining example of
how to behave on set. He's an icon! He is a great
mentor, he is incredibly loving and kind, and he
cares very much about whatever projects he's working
on. Every time I've met him and spoken to him he's
been absolutely lovely. He commands respect, and
gives you the opportunity to be respected, but at
the same time he has no problem expressing his
displeasure in something because he doesn't do it in
a petulant way. He does it in a very dignified way.
The word magnanimous comes to mind. When someone
comes up and compliments me, I don't really know how
to take it. I'm so overly thankful that it must come
across as disingenuous, but really I just want them
to know that I appreciate the effort so much. And
then you see someone compliment Ed and the way he
says a simple thank you is enough and so sincere.
It's exactly what the fan wanted to hear, and it's
truthful. I really admire the type of man he is.
As far as great guys, everyone will tell you
about David Hewlett and Paul McGillion. And I would
say that my personal experience with each and every
one of the cast and crew of Battlestar Galactica is
exceptional, more so than any show I've ever worked
on. Everybody. The Stargate Atlantis guys are also
just awesome.